And this is the first time I’ve ever seen the U.S. government acknowledge the use of offensive cyber capability, and make the point that it is just another weapon in the arsenal. So in my interactions with China, the China Coast Guard, they used to call themselves the Five Dragons. The start of the First World War, D-Day and let it not be forgotten that 22nd June marked the 70th anniversary of the lifting of the siege of Kohima. With respect to our freedom of navigation operations, you know, I think that those are terrifically targeted operations, because they do exactly what we want them to do, which is advocate for that international ruleset. Asked by Wiki User. (Laughter.). MILLEY: He’s a little green man. So that’s another element that we’re going to have to look at as well. An area we didn’t talk about is Central and South America, our hemisphere. You’ve got jobs thinking about the current threats. And that everything is—happens in multiple domains at once. We’re just not going to fall for that. The American people must address their problem. For us as Marines, we have been historically a Pacific force. We had too much war and not enough warriors, but the American people and Congress declined to consider conscription, leaving the problems to the Pentagon and the 1 percent of the population willing to serve in the military. I wanted to remind everybody that the meeting is on the record. You’ve going to have counterterrorism operations, whether it’s ISIS or something like it, for as far as the eye can see, we suspect. By: Summer Minger. We are not going to cede that domain, whether it’s they’re recruiting on it or where they’re messaging on it, where they’re providing disinformation or propaganda or however you want to couch it. That’s their job. (Laughter.) I think he looks like an alien, don’t you? They’ve got to be competitive in those environments, and that’s becoming more challenging as technology is becoming more sophisticated around the world. He is probably well-known to many of you who watched TV during the Deepwater Horizon spill, which was something that he was the on-scene coordinator for the federal government, directing the 47,000 responders to that. Admiral John Richardson, our newest arrival here. And so it’s something we have to be concerned about in the future. (Laughter.). Will we ever have everything we need in our kit? Indeed, it sets an example that the rest of us would be wise to follow. Each year, the military must recruit about 150,000 enlistees. Now, with respect to their building program and steady patrols—not visible of course because that’s the whole nature of that business—but what we’re seeing lately is a resurgence of activity there that, really, you have to go back to the 1990s kind of Cold War levels of activity to see the same number of patrols that we’re seeing. They’re actioning targets. But at the same time, I think we have to make it very clear that, one, we’re going to defend ourselves and we’re going to defend the homeland and we’re going to defend our allies. For some, returning to civilian life may feel like another battle that poses a variety of challenges that must not only be fought, but also understood and accepted in order to be successfully overcome. The military services provide an array of financial management classes and counseling, but financial troubles remain a key problem for members and their families. You know, we are—we cannot just sit there. You’ve seen those really change the way, the nature of the Air Force in your time. But, rather than a sign of widespread corruption, the fact that they're being caught and disciplined is … You’re seeing renewed submarine patrols as well, Admiral Richardson. Enemy combatants, both at the lower level but more importantly at the leadership level, have been significantly attrited. They want to come to the United States, so we must be doing something right. I’m a lawyer. Four of the five merged to become China Coast Guard. HAASS: Well, good evening and welcome to the Council on Foreign Relations. Has been the commander of naval submarine forces. And we’re there to help, assist, advise. You know, they’re not—whatever faith they are, they’re there. It’s a changing dynamic. SANGER: And now we believe that even if they can’t deliver them here, they probably do have a short-range nuclear capability. David, thank you very much. Many in the Army strongly believe that much of the accommodation is poor. We’re working with the Iraqi Security Forces and the various Kurdish forces to do that. ), The only thing on our wish list really—and I think I would speak for everybody up here—is that the incredible men and women who continue to wear these uniforms and sit in this front couple of rows and stand in the back continue to want to serve this country and that their families want to stay and support them. ), SANGER: Oh, well, sorry about that. And I’ve been tracking both the intel and from persona knowledge, talking to commanders, et cetera. Could you move them back across the border? What’s on your wish list? SANGER: —a North Korea that could actually put a nuclear weapon on a short-range missile. And it’s happened in Crimea, it’s happened in Georgia, it’s happened in eastern Ukraine. All of these may help, but will not fix the problem as the pool of Americans qualifying for enlistment is declining from the current 30 percent, and the propensity to serve also is declining from the current 15 percent. He’s been in many different groupings, including special forces over the last 35 years. And one of the things we’re all facing is that the military services have all shrunk. And so if you look at—if you want to study the United States, really it’s like going back to Mahan. ), So, yeah, we do need to modernize, but the good news is when you say, what do you need, you need to be able to modernize but you need to maintain your force structure at the same time. One, Admiral Zukunft of the Coast Guard, for the second time. And that’s what we’ve done. And then, also a little bit about what the risks of that are. MILLEY: Oh, I could have sworn I heard Neller. Everything stems, you know, beyond—transregionally if not globally, cyber being a big part of this. 0 1 2. SANGER: Well, I want to thank all five of you. I did a change of command on a ship not that long ago where the ensign, whose father was on that ship, whose grandfather was a captain of that ship. CNBC's Michelle Caruso-Cabrera reports on the U.S. defense budget and the top five challenges facing the U.S. military. But nuclear we decided years ago would be put aside not to be used as a normal weapon of war. And during the middle of this de facto hurricane they’re moving silt to create a berm so it wouldn’t inundate their only source of fresh water. So if not NATO, then what? You obviously have people from Cyber Command who are working alongside you. I think the issue is if Russia decided to cross another border, could you stop them? But let’s start with today. And we came up with a campaign plan. Some of the provocative activities of Russian President Vladimir Putin—a Russian fighter plane zooms into Lithuanian territory, a Russian submarine floats in and out of Swedish waters in the Baltic Sea—can we handle these activities beyond cyber monitoring militarily? And the concern is you cut right through the cables, you cut a lot of communications right away. And then we’re going to talk about what it is that the chiefs talk about when they get into the tank, which is the future of the force—what it is that they need to be able to do to prepare for both the threats five and 10 years out, or longer, and also begin to think about what kind of resources one would need, how you change the force in that direction. WELSH: OK, one last comment on that just real quickly. And thanks to the ambassador and to Mrs. McKeon for the opportunity for us to be here. And we also have a number of members who are tuning in right now over a webcast and we’ll be getting some questions in from them that I’ll be mixing in with this. And it’s going to be spectacular to watch where it goes, but it doesn’t necessarily go bigger. And particularly, talk a little bit about Syria and Iraq in this current struggle. (Applause.) And that is something that needs to be closely monitored, confronted. But figures from the military itself show that Moscow faces an even more serious task, given demographic problems and the army’s inability to get contract soldiers to sign … The Real Problem with America's Military. But study, you know, our vulnerabilities. MILLEY: There’s a very robust, very sophisticated, integrated air, naval, and ground—integrated air missile defense system scattered all around the country and overseas. SANGER: Well, thank you. And this is the fourth lecture that we’ve held since Bob’s death in 2012. OK, let’s start with the NATO question, which was, do we still need it? It is one of capability—its leadership, training, equipment—and for about two years there they had a big gap and they became essentially very poorly trained, poorly led after we left from ’11 to ’14. I mean, the Chinese would say that they’re doing what they’re doing with the land reclamation because of our behavior in the South China Sea, and we’re saying, no, we’re not doing it; we’re doing it in response to yours; we’re doing it in response to the things you’re doing. Jun Ayota (ph), Princeton University. We’ve had the secretary of defense, the deputy secretary, some of you in testimony, talk about the use of cyber right alongside your air power, your ground power. It’s their country. You know, I look—I believe we are on the cusp of some technologies that will turn that cost curve around with sort of directed energy and those types of technologies that will allow us to be much more effective and sustain this fight a lot longer, really bring the cost per round down and increase our magazine depth. And, to me, the most impressive statistic at all, half of whom have gone on to the rank of general or admiral. It’s going to be very successful. What Is the World Doing to Distribute COVID-19 Vaccines? An assignment manager that utilizes a computer program to manage hundreds of thous… What can DOD do and what can the whole of government do to deal with those kinds of problems? Of the many hurdles military veterans face in America today, they name adjusting back to everyday life as the most significant challenge. It’s now an alliance of necessity again. Conscription would restore the military’s single greatest source of competitive advantage for high quality talent with civilian employers. There’s basically no job in the Air Force, I think, at this point, that General Welsh has not had. You responded to David’s question about saying, against ISIS, that you were going to have an indigenous force. "There were 500 women on a 5,000 man ship," Noble says, describing one of her later opportunities for sea duty. (Laughter. ), WELSH: Probably not—(laughter)—although you’d all look really good sitting in it, just like we do. by Kristen A. Cordell So there’s naval ships out there, there’s radars, there’s air capabilities, and then there’s the ground capability. The service chiefs address domain and region-specific challenges facing the United States today. There’s a lot of concern that something could go wrong along the way, that somebody could get a little hot-headed. Our acquisition portfolio has grown less than 2 percent over the last two years. So, this task falls to a small portion of Americans, largely from the third and fourth socio-economic quintiles, to discharge on behalf of a nation of limited-liability patriots. So I think the only thing like it is Her Majesty’s Ship Victory that Lord Nelson served on. Today's Army is the most well-equipped and most responsive in its well-storied history. And they work closely with a variety of the Shia groups and they have a fair amount of influence. And so, you know, we’re sustaining hundreds of thousands of attacks, you know, per day. I think that’s the way to go to keep the world a stable and safe place. We’ve got radars. At the end of the day, we have got to work by, with, and through indigenous forces in order to destroy ISIS. So we watch this all the time and we’re coming to the point where we’re counting the number of missiles that are there and we’re trying to come up with the force ratios. SANGER: Yeah, OK. Answer. That’s for sure. Tonight marks the 15th time that CFR has hosted the service chiefs. Twenty to 30 years from now, I think it’ll start to shift. But I believe we need NATO. This is just contesting messaging and words and ideas and thoughts on what we would call social media. Now, it doesn’t appear to be a very stable and safe place because there are people doing nefarious things out there, but I would just suggest, if we weren’t there, what else would they be doing if we weren’t out there to monitor their activities and kind of keep an eye on things? The Robert B. McKeon Endowed Series on Military Strategy and Leadership features prominent individuals from the military and intelligence communities. Now, the first vaccines are being distributed, spurring hope that the pandemic’s end is in sight. That’s where we have to go—. It’s really a privilege, thank you. So we are the global power. And I think whatever they’re doing now, they are still a very capable military and they clearly have shown an intent to be disruptive, at least in the region. | Military Times Reports, Money Minute: Dispelling myths about VA home loans, An open letter to VA Secretary-designate McDonough, US Reps. Moulton and Banks: The future of defense is in public-private partnerships, US Air Force chief of staff: How to prepare the service for tomorrow’s fight, Chief of US Army Futures Command: The service is experiencing a technological evolution, Former Pentagon comptroller: Observations and opportunities for America’s defense budget, https://www.militarytimes.com © 2021 Sightline Media Group. SANGER: Yeah, who’s often on this stage as well. So I do a lot of work—I was in Hanoi, Da Nang, Manila just before the end of the year, two ASEAN countries that have been the most assertive in protecting their sovereign rights and their EEZ, where we see encroachment—drilling off the coast of Vietnam, Second Thomas Shoal in the Philippines, which is well within the EEZ of the Philippines. SANGER: We’re discussing a Ukraine-like situation but not limited to Ukraine, of course. I’m president of the Council on Foreign Relations. The gentleman right back here. MILLEY: Red Sox to win the series. So I think their provocations, which go back to the sinking of the South Korean ship and the things they’ve done with missile technology and missile shots, makes everybody a little bit nervous and makes the whole region unstable. They’ve taken Ramadi. They approved that. As you think about it, you’re seeing renewed air patrols out along in Europe. It’s calving. And previous to that he was commander of the Coast Guard Pacific area. In this campaign we’ve heard more than a few candidates talk—one in particular—about whether or not we even want to pull back from some forward deployment areas. supports HTML5 video, National Security Correspondent, New York Times. And you’re going to have all these other big challenges, and we haven’t gotten to Russia yet as well. It’s come through in all of this discussion about how you’re trying to put together coalitions, how it is that you’re attempting to build force multipliers. WELSH: —because quantity does have a quality all its own in our business. In addition to the measures noted above, numerous pundits, consultants, think tankers and military personnel professionals have recommended measures to enhance recruiting. So we doubled the numbers. Yeah, we just don’t know. NELLER: If that doesn’t happen, like it didn’t happen after 2011—. ), Domestic Terrorism Strikes U.S. Capitol, and Democracy, In Brief And they had this terrorist component. I think what we’ve seen the Russians do—where we kind of got this hybrid war thing—in Ukraine is where they took advantage of the political situation and the ethnic lay-down of people that live there. And yet you also have a discussion going on in the country about whether or not we even want to be engaged around the world as fully as we have been. Is it more Marines? RICHARDSON: And so I think that—you know, you talked about future technologies, future of the force. (Applause. We’re going to be at 308 (ships) by the end of, you know, 2020, 2021. This is an issue that impacts not only national security, but also the social fabric of our democracy. I’ve been out to Majuro, to the Marshall Islands. So you want to make—you know, you want to build public trust, one, that you’ll produce outcomes but, two, you’ll be a good steward of the resources you invested in. You know, wingmen who can do different tasks for a pilot in an F-35, is an example. At the same time, I think we have to continue to reaffirm our treaty obligations that we have with the South Koreans, and the fact we’ve got forces there and that we’re part of an international alliance throughout the region. First, thank you for being here and taking your time do this. This program goes back more than half a century now, and has hosted some 140 military officers. And so you’ve got to have sufficient capacity so that you’ve got options out there if something should happen. MILLEY: I think, David, that’s a really key point. So that means that not only are the answers on the record, the questions are on the record. was describing, which was—. You’ve got the jobs thinking about the future of the force. Common Issues Facing Veterans. You can, you know, achieve your strategic aims on a continuing basis and on a contingency basis. They’re being hugely successful in Anbar right now. (Laughter.). Military members endure a lifestyle unlike any other, and, in kind, can be affected by a unique set of health and wellness issues. And so I think from our perspective, due diligence would require us to assume that Russia is an enduring concern. And how do you think we’re doing on it today? The issues are less military than political. It improves our training and our readiness, but it’s expensive because, you know, we put hours on planes and miles on vehicles and—. Both documents outline the number of personnel, equipment, and organizational structure required to properly resource a unit in order to accomplish their specific Mission Essential Task List (METL). The very first thing that has to be answered is what’s the role of the United States in the world? Over the past 18 years of “endless war,” the Pentagon has adopted numerous measures to prop up the AVF. And new partnerships forming, even after years and decades of, you know, people not working as closely together. Many also … Excerpt from Term Paper : Ethical Issues Facing the Army Leadership Today The United States military is facing a host of ethical issues today. May 12, 2020, Virtual Event Admiral Zukunft, we had a discussion the other day about global warming and what potential threats that poses to populations, the possibility of new conflicts that come up as you have rising seas. We can use them to observe movement. And of course, also was in Afghanistan, served in the operation staff of the Joint Staff, military assistant to the secretary of defense I guess when it was Bob Gates, is that right? Many countries in the world are engulfed by war. MILLEY: I don’t want to take it because I gave a speech up at Norwich a week ago and I used the word “hybrid” and “little green men” and everybody’s saying I’m talking about aliens coming into America, so I’m staying away from it this time. The problem belongs to the American people and Congress. They deserve the sacraments. Q: Hi. We’re seeing Chinese fishing trawlers provoking the United States Navy carrying out sovereign acts, but just over the horizon is the PLA. We’ve seen a lot of back and forth in the past year between the Navy and others, and the White House, about the degree to which we want to run freedom of navigation operations down into these areas that the Chinese have claimed their own. And then we started to realize that they looked an awful lot like something much more than a terrorist group. HAASS: And David will properly introduce all five of these gentlemen. (Laughter.) We still have a very small percentage of our force is actually on unmanned aircraft. Unmanned wingmen is a concept that we’re testing now. It’s a policy decision that is made and interwoven with those other elements of power. And from a grand-strategy perspective, instead of worrying about what China might be, Russia might be, where cyber might go, it’s helpful if the United States of America decides clearly what we are going to be 50 years from now. But the bigger question is, once ISIS is destroyed, then what? SANGER: When I was in South Korea there was, of course, a lot of debate about getting the South Koreans to adopt, very quickly, a THAAD system that would—, SANGER: —help against the threat that K.T. So we think that’s the way to go. SANGER: Is cyber the little green men of the future in that the attribution issue is still so difficult for the U.S. government that frequently you don’t know whether the adversary at the other end is a state, a non-state actor, a bunch of teenagers sitting in a basement? I haven’t seen one chaplain. And what’s happened is the sea ice up there has receded to record levels. This looks like Teddy Roosevelt—you know, big white ship, you know, from that era as well. Let’s turn the question a little bit to resources, something that all five of you have to think about regularly. Civil war, ethnic war, cold war, identity wars have been the cause of ruining human civilizations. And I think my parents are here, including my dad, who’s a veteran of Okinawa and Iwo Jima, and was lucky enough to meet the chiefs earlier. I want to start off by asking you on the counterterrorism side: How do you assess, General Milley, the speed with which we reacted to the rise of ISIS two years ago? WELSH: Thank you, sir. Posted by Nicole Smith, Dec 7, 2011 ... a problem the military does not want yet continues to promote. So it’s very clever, very insidious, and it’s—you know, as you said, it’s war without war. I mean, that’s the—you know, Sun Tzu, the ability to defeat your enemy without having to fight them. MILLEY: Again, short range—you know, the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, independent of each other don’t win wars. We have the ability to track and find and see, and given—it’s not perfect but it’s better than what anybody else has got. The real hard question is what happens if one of these other contingencies were to go off that—and Bob Neller was talking about Korea and John Richardson was talking about China, and we haven’t even talked about Russia yet or some of these others. There is no doubt that there is a serious problem in manning the American military. Why not? Perhaps Winston Churchill was right when he said that “Americans will always do the right thing, after exhausting every other alternative.”. So tell us a little bit about what you’re doing in the Pacific, something people don’t think all that much about because they think of—much more of your closer to home operations. To combat the growing military-civilian divide, the military must be willing to change its recruiting tactics amid changing times, the author of this opinion piece writes. The US military is good at many things, but conspicuously bad at management. (Laughter. But, you know, it isn’t the—I guess I’m a classicist in that the nature of war really hasn’t changed, and we are going to—it is a contest between thinking adversaries, and they’re going to study our vulnerabilities and they’re going to target those vulnerabilities to achieve their aim. And it’s an existential threat to them. Many times, a veteran just needs a helping hand, like Edward Andruskieicz, of Lynn, Massachusetts. And so, you know, this cyber dimension is—. In fact, we don’t even have a coast guard, let alone a navy. NELLER: It just doesn’t seem to match up. MILLEY: They Army has been involved in Iraq and Afghanistan and we’ve suffered a lot of casualties. The President's Inbox, In Brief In fact, ours came out the day after. The question is, you know, we’ve only got so many bullets. NELLER: —or even in garrison, without a chaplain. How do we define ourselves? And so in that regard, it’s a natural evolution of warfare. So they are performing. There are five maritime non-PLA services. And so it is a changing dynamic. SANGER: OK, do we still need NATO, a question I think I’ve heard in the campaign here or there. Consider the arithmetic. (Applause.) And so we’re actually—you know, the secretary has been very successful in putting together a ship-building program that has us on a growth in terms of those numbers. OK. RICHARDSON: A classic ploy, drive the wedge, you know. In 1973, the soon-to-be most disgraced president of the United States implemented the all-volunteer force (AVF) and did away with conscription — a political and social act to atone for the sins of the most unpopular war in our country’s history and an unfair military draft. ZUKUNFT: And so we talked a lot about the Mideast, talked a lot about ISIL, South China Sea. It became an alliance of choice as nations saw the benefits of being a member. (Laughter.). A 2005 Rand Corp. study identified that CAT IV soldiers perform between 20.4 and 30.0 percent less effectively than higher scoring recruits. And there are climatologists today that say the fuse has already been lit. And you can have the coolest ship on the planet but it can only be in one place at a time, and it can’t be in the Gulf and in the South China Sea. Do you agree with that after your—. Sign up for the Early Bird Brief - a daily roundup of military and defense news stories from around the globe. But make sure, you know, you hit a strategy that reaches to the top tiers of our government. Absolutely not. We can use them to actually target. MILLEY: We’re going to see this movie again. And he’s truly an expert on our—on our nuclear submarine force, holds a master’s degree in electrical engineering from MIT. SANGER: And how does that change the calculus? And that’s what’s significant. It is a glacier on the ice fields of Greenland that is moving during the summer months at the rate of over eight miles a year. So how did they get that way? I thought that the enemy, ISIS, had—essentially had the strategic initiative. And that will be—that could be a challenge, especially on the Syrian side of the border. At the same time, General Milley, you’re probably going to be moving from a force that right now is about, what, 470,000 active? You have to demonstrate outcomes and the impact on regional stability, where the United States has an inherent responsibility. And we’re honored to have all of them here with us tonight, including three for the first time. We cannot turn back ocean temperatures. And I’ve served multiple tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. WELSH: To a lot of our Eastern European and Nordic partner air forces, if you talk to them they’ll tell you that Russia never went anywhere. Thank all of you for coming and doing this again. It’s just to be better at what we’ve always done. WELSH: Thanks, David. We’re just past the Wright flier stage, if you want to make an analogy to manned aircraft. (Laughter. And, you know, they are responding. Who wants to take that? And, General Milley, let’s start with you. They’ve been active in there. General Milley of the Army, who I think you heard before is now the 39th chief of staff of the Army. And that is yet to come. Are you normalizing cyberwarfare, even while we’re using it against an enemy like ISIS? Well, first if I could just sort of dispel the fact that we’re shrinking. But I think what we’ve done is, first of all, identified the problem, seen that it has certain traits or characteristics that are identifiable, and then helped our partner nations develop counter-capabilities, to include intelligence in messaging and information so that they—when they see something like this they can confront it and call it out and they don’t sit there and wait and somebody’s like, hey, who are these guys walking around dressed like this and what did they say and how did this story get planted, and then there’s a political aspect to it. New questions regarding financial and human resources. I hope we keep this tradition going for many years more. SANGER: Directed-energy antimissile, what was imagined back in the Reagan era but is now actually, you think, getting closer to a reality. Went over there in September, did not think we were doing very well. 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